neom 31 minutes ago

Some of that zooming in made me feel pretty damn uncomfortable. It really is f'ing massive out there huh. Makes me wonder what this is all about, I'm sure it's something, I wonder what. :)

lfmunoz4 17 minutes ago

600x zoom didn't seem to help from the 150x zoom. Wonder if we will ever be able to see actual planet surfaces or we need some other technology to do that, i.e, we should have small satellites every 10 light years. but this map is amazing and a good step forward.

  • stouset 11 minutes ago

    There is zero way to optically resolve an exoplanet’s surface without something like a gravitational lens.

bikamonki 44 minutes ago

So many solar systems out there, life evolved in many planets for sure. No proof but no doubt.

  • tomrod 24 minutes ago

    We have proof. Us.

  • ekianjo 15 minutes ago

    Life? Probably. Something that has thinking capabilities? Much more doubtful.

    • m3kw9 12 minutes ago

      One proof is that we are thinking, and so are dogs, cats and monkeys to a lesser extent.

      • ekianjo 10 minutes ago

        That's Earth. There is no model to say that life always goes on that way. We just have no clue.

        • virtue3 6 minutes ago

          "Astronomer Frank Drake created a formula to estimate the number of extraterrestrial civilizations in the Milky Way. Adam Frank and Woodruff Sullivan modified the equation to calculate the odds that Earth was the first intelligent life in the universe. They concluded that the odds of Earth being the first are less than one in 10 billion trillion, which suggests that other intelligent species have likely evolved."

          1 in 10 billion trillion is some pretty serious odds.

          It does get more complicated if we factor in life happening quickly enough without an extinction event.

          But after looking at images like this there is just NO WAY we are the only ones.

        • caust1c 4 minutes ago

          I think there's a pretty compelling argument that could be made that matter assembling itself into conscious beings follows pretty naturally from life itself, given a long enough time horizon and assuming the properties of basic elements holds constant throughout the universe which seems pretty likely.

    • deanCommie 7 minutes ago

      I see no reason to doubt.

      I think at the scale of the universe life even thinking capabilities life is almost certainly inevitable.

      What's not inevitable is that it can thrive, and survive to a galactic scale. That's not even yet certain for us.

      Universe is too big, we're all too far apart. Civilizations come, civilizations go. Some may not be on a planet where even rocket travel may be possible - no source of energy dense enough. Some can get wiped out by disasters. Asteroids. It's happened on this planet a bunch of times.

      It's like the Birthday paradox. It's likely 2 people have the same birthday. It's not likely that someone else has YOUR birthday.

bbor an hour ago

Really impressive work, thanks for sharing. The video, that is -- the astronomy is indistinguishable from magic and thus way beyond the reach of words like "impressive", obviously. I do find it a little funny that physics is in such a jam that "look at more stuff" is an important next step, but godspeed nonetheless.

ETA: For those who love space but are similarly OOTL on the specifics of modern missions: this is from a telescope launched to the L2 point (next to Webb!) last July, and is currently a bit over 1/6th of the way through it's expected lifetime.

Details here: https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Euclid... and obv https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclid_%28spacecraft%29

In comparison to Webb, it's focused on ~visible light surveys of the medium to far range, whereas Webb was built for ~infrared investigations of very distant objects. It was budgeted around 1/4th the cost of Webb (and ended up being ~1/20th due to Webb's costs running from $1B to $10B...) See https://www.jameswebbdiscovery.com/other-missions/euclid/euc...

If you're looking for a new wallpaper, it would be hard to beat this 8000x8000 pic it took of the Perseus galaxy cluster, casually depicting 100,000 galaxies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclid_%28spacecraft%29#/media... The discoverer of galaxies, Kant, would literally weep. We're lucky to live when we do!

  • dylan604 4 minutes ago

    > I do find it a little funny that physics is in such a jam that "look at more stuff" is an important next step

    Observation is the most basic step of science. By viewing, we can find evidence of theoretical concepts or see something that conflicts those theories so they can be discarded or tweaked. It's not like there are experiments that could be used to test theories, so observing is all there is

  • A_D_E_P_T 41 minutes ago

    I agree wholeheartedly with all of your sentiments, but I don't think that Kant discovered galaxies or had much interest in them. That honor goes to Messier or Hubble, I believe.

ur-whale an hour ago

I wish there was a standardized way to let folks who run a website such as this one know how much a casual passer-by viewer enjoys the byproduct of their work.

  • dylan604 a few seconds ago

    You used to be able to sign a guestbook

  • miunau an hour ago

    If you're in the EU (particularly Germany, France and Italy, who are the three largest funders), you can let your representatives know you appreciate ESA's work.

  • nhumrich an hour ago

    There is. It's called dwell-time

    • ur-whale an hour ago

      You might be staying there a long time because you're fuming, so: nope.